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Where to get it: http://www.waves.com
 
Where to get it: http://www.waves.com
 
 
Problem: don't work out of the box
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Problem: They don't work out of the box.
 
 
Solution: use a wrapper like http://www.console.jp/
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Solution: Use a wrapper like http://www.console.jp/
 
 
 
Psycle version: 1.7.6.2
 
Psycle version: 1.7.6.2
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'''• VST name and vendor: TriangleII (by rcgaudio)'''
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'''• VST name and vendor: TriangleII (by RcgAudio)'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://www.rcgaudio.com/
 
Where to get it: http://www.rcgaudio.com/
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• VST name and vendor: Ticky Clav (by Big Tick)
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'''• VST name and vendor: Ticky Clav (by Big Tick)'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://bigtick.pastnotecut.org/
 
Where to get it: http://bigtick.pastnotecut.org/
 
 
Problem: one of the back-stabbing VSTs
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Problem: Crashes Psycle sometimes ("Play-Stop" error)
 
 
 
Psycle version: 1.7.6.2
 
Psycle version: 1.7.6.2
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• VST name and vendor: Vivaldi!, VivaldiMX and other (by Stefan Kuhn)
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'''• VST name and vendor: Vivaldi!, VivaldiMX and other (by Stefan Kuhn)'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://www.stefan-kuhn.net/content/vivaldi.html
 
Where to get it: http://www.stefan-kuhn.net/content/vivaldi.html
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• VST name and vendor: Reaktor
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'''• VST name and vendor: Reaktor'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://www.native-instruments.com/
 
Where to get it: http://www.native-instruments.com/
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• VST name and vendor: TC Spark Fx
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'''• VST name and vendor: TC Spark Fx'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://www.tcworks.de/
 
Where to get it: http://www.tcworks.de/
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• VST name and vendor: mda DX10 (by mda)
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'''• VST name and vendor: mda DX10 (by mda)'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://www.pluginspot.com/
 
Where to get it: http://www.pluginspot.com/
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• VST name and vendor: rhythms
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'''• VST name and vendor: rhythms'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://odosynths.panicnow.net/
 
Where to get it: http://odosynths.panicnow.net/
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• VST name and vendor: Morpheus FM Sampler
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'''• VST name and vendor: Morpheus FM Sampler'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://www.funkelectric.com/~cockaigne/
 
Where to get it: http://www.funkelectric.com/~cockaigne/
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• VST name and vendor: Cyanide 2 (Smartelectronix)
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'''• VST name and vendor: Cyanide 2 (Smartelectronix)'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://bram.smartelectronix.com/
 
Where to get it: http://bram.smartelectronix.com/
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• VST name and vendor: SFZ (RGC Audio)
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'''• VST name and vendor: SFZ (RGC Audio)'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://www.rgcaudio.com/
 
Where to get it: http://www.rgcaudio.com/
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• VST name and vendor: Absynth 3 (Native Instruments)
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'''• VST name and vendor: Absynth 3 (Native Instruments)'''
 
 
 
Where to get it: http://www.nativeinstruments.de/
 
Where to get it: http://www.nativeinstruments.de/
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• Q: How can I help?
 
• Q: How can I help?
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• A: Lots of ways. You can fill up information which isn't yet here. You can add new entries to this list (please try to do it as it is done now). You can add solutions you discovered.
 
• A: Lots of ways. You can fill up information which isn't yet here. You can add new entries to this list (please try to do it as it is done now). You can add solutions you discovered.
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• Q: Why do you need so much information?
 
• Q: Why do you need so much information?
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• A: Simply because if a VST fails to work in Psycle and works in other VST hosts, we want to know exactly what goes wrong to resolve the issue.
 
• A: Simply because if a VST fails to work in Psycle and works in other VST hosts, we want to know exactly what goes wrong to resolve the issue.
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• Q: Yes, but why do you ask about the operating system?
 
• Q: Yes, but why do you ask about the operating system?
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• A: VSTs are much like other applications, they can have OS specific issues. And so can Psycle! So we have to know this.
 
• A: VSTs are much like other applications, they can have OS specific issues. And so can Psycle! So we have to know this.
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• Q: Right, but what if I can't give you all information you want?
 
• Q: Right, but what if I can't give you all information you want?
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• A: Just leave these sections blank, another person can fill them up.
 
• A: Just leave these sections blank, another person can fill them up.
   
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== The "Play-Stop" error ==
• Q: What if I don't use these VSTs and Psycle is still very unstable?
 
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There are a number of VSTs (especially SynthEdit ones) that appear to work fine at first, but can actually crash psycle (usually at the least convenient time). These VSTs decrease the stability of Psycle, due to the fact that they are poorly written, or are not quite compatible with the current VST Host (Jaz is working on a new one!).
• A: It's easy to discover bogus VSTs when they act strangely all the time(have GUI bugs, don't produce sound or produce bad sound, etc.). There could be VSTs that crash Psycle all the time. Unfortunately, most of them are back-stabbing VSTs. Check this term out to know how to handle them and what they are.
 
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To test if your VST is going to cause you problems, create a new Psycle file, add the VST (and connect it to the master machine), and then place some notes in a pattern. Then, start and stop playback really quickly, or hold the F5 key to constant retrigger playback. If Psycle crashes, you have one of these VSTs - and the best solution is to save your work VERY often!

Revision as of 03:17, 1 October 2005

This is the official list of known VSTs that don't work well with Psycle. You can help by filling up the gaps in these specs or by adding new entries. Please try to be as specific as you can and stick to the current format.

VSTs known to cause problems

• VST name and vendor: Waves plugins

Where to get it: http://www.waves.com

Problem: They don't work out of the box.

Solution: Use a wrapper like http://www.console.jp/

Psycle version: 1.7.6.2

Operating system: any

VST hosts where it works:


• VST name and vendor: TriangleII (by RcgAudio)

Where to get it: http://www.rcgaudio.com/

Problem: doesn't save settings into .psy files

Note: it worked under old versions of Psycle

Psycle version: 1.7.6.2

Operating system: Windows XP

VST hosts where it works: Muzys


• VST name and vendor: Ticky Clav (by Big Tick)

Where to get it: http://bigtick.pastnotecut.org/

Problem: Crashes Psycle sometimes ("Play-Stop" error)

Psycle version: 1.7.6.2

Operating system: Windows XP

VST hosts where it works: ReNoise


• VST name and vendor: Vivaldi!, VivaldiMX and other (by Stefan Kuhn)

Where to get it: http://www.stefan-kuhn.net/content/vivaldi.html

Problem: doesn't save settings into .psy files

Psycle version: 1.7.6.2

Operating system: Windows XP

VST hosts where it works: ReNoise


• VST name and vendor: Reaktor

Where to get it: http://www.native-instruments.com/

Problem: GUI related: doesn't show all the screen

Psycle version:

Operating system:

VST hosts where it works: Cubase


• VST name and vendor: TC Spark Fx

Where to get it: http://www.tcworks.de/

Problem: GUI related: doesn't show all the screen

Psycle version:

Operating system:

VST hosts where it works:


• VST name and vendor: mda DX10 (by mda)

Where to get it: http://www.pluginspot.com/

Problem: no sound

Psycle version: 1.7.6.2

Operating system: Windows XP

VST hosts where it works: ReNoise


• VST name and vendor: rhythms

Where to get it: http://odosynths.panicnow.net/

Problem: one of the back-stabbing VSTs

Psycle version: 1.7.6.2

Operating system: Windows XP

VST hosts where it works:


• VST name and vendor: Morpheus FM Sampler

Where to get it: http://www.funkelectric.com/~cockaigne/

Problem: one of the back-stabbing VSTs

Psycle version: 1.7.6.2

Operating system: Windows XP

VST hosts where it works:


• VST name and vendor: Cyanide 2 (Smartelectronix)

Where to get it: http://bram.smartelectronix.com/

Problem: doesn't save settings into .psy files

Psycle version: 1.7.6.2

Operating system: Windows XP

VST hosts where it works:


• VST name and vendor: SFZ (RGC Audio)

Where to get it: http://www.rgcaudio.com/

Problem: one of the back-stabbing VSTs

Psycle version: 1.7.3

Operating system: Windows XP & 98

VST hosts where it works:

[ it works perfectly for me in 1.7.6.2 and 1.7.7.x using Windows 2000]

((((((( I'm fed up of people writing using the first person in the wiki without prefixing their quote with their name )))))))


• VST name and vendor: Absynth 3 (Native Instruments)

Where to get it: http://www.nativeinstruments.de/

Problem: crashes Psycle suddenly when double clicking on it (machines view)

Psycle version: 1.7.6.2 and 1.7.7.16

Operating system: Windows 2000

VST hosts where it works: Aerostudio 1.0.11.13


Questions And Answers

• Q: How can I help?

• A: Lots of ways. You can fill up information which isn't yet here. You can add new entries to this list (please try to do it as it is done now). You can add solutions you discovered.


• Q: Why do you need so much information?

• A: Simply because if a VST fails to work in Psycle and works in other VST hosts, we want to know exactly what goes wrong to resolve the issue.


• Q: Yes, but why do you ask about the operating system?

• A: VSTs are much like other applications, they can have OS specific issues. And so can Psycle! So we have to know this.


• Q: Right, but what if I can't give you all information you want?

• A: Just leave these sections blank, another person can fill them up.

The "Play-Stop" error

There are a number of VSTs (especially SynthEdit ones) that appear to work fine at first, but can actually crash psycle (usually at the least convenient time). These VSTs decrease the stability of Psycle, due to the fact that they are poorly written, or are not quite compatible with the current VST Host (Jaz is working on a new one!).

To test if your VST is going to cause you problems, create a new Psycle file, add the VST (and connect it to the master machine), and then place some notes in a pattern. Then, start and stop playback really quickly, or hold the F5 key to constant retrigger playback. If Psycle crashes, you have one of these VSTs - and the best solution is to save your work VERY often!